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Post by Joel87GT on Apr 16, 2005 11:22:55 GMT -5
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Luc
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Post by Luc on Apr 16, 2005 11:41:49 GMT -5
isnt it bad to boost the 3s-fe? i posted a forum a while back and people told me that it destroyed the engine.
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Post by Joel87GT on Apr 16, 2005 11:43:55 GMT -5
the engine code tells you its for 3SFE. They also make the manifold for 5SFE, and 3SGTE too.
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Luc
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Post by Luc on Apr 16, 2005 11:50:06 GMT -5
yeah i know i had a brain fart i tried to change as soon as i could. i deleted it and wrote some thing else.
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Post by phillk6751 on Apr 16, 2005 17:17:44 GMT -5
Its seems like our prayers has been answered by the celica gods. Yo, Im going to do it. when are you planning on doing it? cause seriously....tell us how it goes, if it works I wanna do my 3sfe...unless you were hoping i'd go through with this TPS/fuel-system hack to do it....I REALLY want to boost my 3sfe.
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Post by White87GT on Apr 16, 2005 18:58:58 GMT -5
: waving bye bye to Joel's engine :
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Post by Flyin_Bryan on Apr 16, 2005 19:05:21 GMT -5
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Post by Joel87GT on Apr 16, 2005 22:04:41 GMT -5
: waving bye bye to Joel's engine : Oh it wont be this engine. It will be a rebuilt 3sfe engine designed by Jeremy's hands. We had a talk about it - reinforcing 3SFE internals. I wanted 3sfe because it uses OBD I. Jeremey said he could tap out oil lines in the lower block as on the 3sgte. I wanted hybrid 3sfe because it has great torque. So when I get the money - it will all come into play soon.
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Post by White87GT on Apr 17, 2005 8:24:26 GMT -5
Oh it wont be this engine. It will be a rebuilt 3sfe engine designed by Jeremy's hands. We had a talk about it - reinforcing 3SFE internals. I wanted 3sfe because it uses OBD I. Jeremey said he could tap out oil lines in the lower block as on the 3sgte. I wanted hybrid 3sfe because it has great torque. So when I get the money - it will all come into play soon. Joel, then why not use the 5S-FE? 2.2 liters, more torque, and it has been proven to be able to take boost.
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Post by Joel87GT on Apr 17, 2005 9:17:42 GMT -5
Joel, then why not use the 5S-FE? 2.2 liters, more torque, and it has been proven to be able to take boost. We talked about it but, I wanted the OBD I. The 5sfe has OBD II. OBD I allows me to change any NA setup whether its intake to outtake. Change anyting in OBD II your car runs like crap. Another reason is the 5SFE has higher compression than my 3sfe and higher than a 3sgte. I need the lower compression in the 3SFE to add more fuel air mixture ratios. 5SFE has higher compression becaused its tuned for N/A setup. I think its not good for boosting. Besides - I can beat any 5SFE with my 3SFE. This is future project to be expected soon with a rebuilt hybrid 3sfe with stronger internals. I am not expecting to have variable cams adjustments out for the exhaust. I think porting out the exhaust in the head a bit wider will compensate for increase gas output. What I need to watch out (referring to above picture) for is having a BOV set to release at 7PSI. I thinkk having a variable BOV is the key and, wont blow my 3sfe. I am expecting my OBD I to compensate /adjust to intake pressure during boosting for correct detonation. Im not stating it will work but, just a theory if OBD I will adjust to the dynamics of boosting. Correct me if I am wrong. Is JDM 3S-GTE OBD- I? I found some resource on OBD I and II reading celicatech.com. It referred this link. Not only that I found a 4thgen spanking a 7thgen celica. www.aa1car.com/library/us796obd.htmFunny as shit as avatar. Way to go ChrisD. The MAF wont be a problem following this setup. I will be doing something like this except with a 3sfe. Beared is using a GTE motor with a GE manifold. But just looking at this picture where is BOV? Would not Berad would have more room with the turbonetics manifold. I have seen the 3SGTE exhaust manifold and, its big and clunk and Heavy. Plus he wont have to bend the tube upside off his turbo and route it back down to the front intercooler. Berad is going in the right direction if only he can turn his turbo 180 from the back away from the exhaust manifold so his tubing to his intercooler doesnt get hot. Just my observation. Great work Berad ~ please give us update pictures.
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Post by DLBgt on Apr 17, 2005 21:58:53 GMT -5
Good luck with the turbo setup. Let us know how it goes.
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Post by blck87gtconv on Apr 18, 2005 14:23:49 GMT -5
I'm shocked nobody has mentioned that the 3sfe ran for more years than the 1st generation. I'm sure the 2nd generation 3sfe would be able to handle it fine. :wavey: goobye Joe's engine.
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Post by Joel87GT on Apr 18, 2005 22:44:41 GMT -5
I'm shocked nobody has mentioned that the 3sfe ran for more years than the 1st generation. I'm sure the 2nd generation 3sfe would be able to handle it fine. :wavey: goobye Joe's engine. Who is joe? Im concerned about the RIBBS - what are ribs in the lower block? And why is everyone waving Bye Bye. LMAO.
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Post by White87GT on Apr 18, 2005 22:50:24 GMT -5
Who is joe? Im concerned about the RIBBS - what are ribs in the lower block? And why is everyone waving Bye Bye. LMAO. It's gonna blow man. I'm almost putting money on it. I really hope that you can prove me wrong.
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Post by Joel87GT on Apr 18, 2005 23:46:19 GMT -5
It's gonna blow man. I'm almost putting money on it. I really hope that you can prove me wrong. Yeah, I understand what you mean. Then why the heck did turbonectics make us a 3sfe turbo manifold. ? Somebody with a turbonetic turbo must have turboed a 3SFE right? Otherwise the company turboneticsinc.com would not have made a manifold to house a turbo on a FE? I hear ya ~ everyone is expecting once the turbo on the FE is on and it spools up past 15PSI - BOOM. I hope to build the motor and have it dyno tested before swapping it in my car. Believe me I am researching the internals first.
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