second gen manafold and head onto 1gen 3sge block!

[GTRJDM]

Hey racerb and other people that can help me out as you are probley awere i have a second genaration 3sge topend head, 2nd gen 3sge manafold intake exzaust(wholething) 2nd gen throtal body and oil pump. got it all for 100 bucks nz thanks like 60 nucks us and its in good condiction nt that it matters because im gonna completley re work on the head and port polllish the manafold throtal body etc

but what i need to know how hard and is it possible to bolt and wire this head and manafold and throtalbody etc uptp my 1st genaration 3sge-lu st162 celica engine block my engine 1gen3sge has lowish Ks on it too. People have told me that it will bolt up but the wireing is hard what i also need to know is answers for questions like
1. will i need the st182 ECU ??.
2 will the sensers of my 1gen be used or do i use the second gen sensers (for the head sensers stc)
3 will the injectors need to be off the second gen GE head or my 1st gen GE head.

rembering i would like to use as many parts from my 1st gen as possible like sensers etc

thanks guys

oh yea and one more question sorry TVIS it gets replaced on the second gen 3sge so do i just pull the whoel system out and replace it with the second gen manafold system ?? and what is that system why is it better than TVIS cheers

Aaron plz if you can explain it to me well just because i might nt know much about engines but the person who is helping me does he builds supra engines but he dosent know much about celicas so if yo can write it up then he can figer it out cheers Aaron

.... one more thing lol if i were going to do this would putting oversize pistons in be recommended as well and plaining the head (if i do this i shold really get stronger conrods too right ?>

[racerb]

From everything I've seen, the second gen has better flow than first gen, not so sure if it's cause of the head or intake. Now as far as the wiring and sensors go, might want to ask Jeremy about that, he's probebly had a litttle more experience than I've had on those. Other than that don't see any real reason this setup shouldn't work fine.

racerb

[RioCyber]

not my favorite tipe of tuning , but 2gen head is wery friendly for a NOS instalation

[dynamictuner]

My 2nd gen head, intake manifold, and exhaust header Thursday just a question the Comp ratio is different I know on both gens will i have any differences? Will my 3SGE pistons still work?

[Jeremy]

You need to use all of your 1st gen sensors, harness, ECU. Everything will bolt right up. I would eliminate the TVIS & use the 2nd gen intake, TVIS is overated, all it does is increase lower end torque by a small amount you could make that up by advancing the timing.

& yes dynamic you can still use your existing 1st gen pistons as the valve angle is the exact same on all GE heads. 50 degrees. the 2nd gen heads have slightly larger valves but as long as your timing belt is set right you won't have any problems.

[dynamictuner]

Thank you Jeremy. Woohoo I will get me some even more power to the pavement now. I love it haha! Pics this weekend everyone be looking in the Members board around friday or saturday.

[carlosfandango]

cool project - be sure to take some pics and get everything nice and clean..

[hitechdog]

any update to this project?

if using the 1st gen 3sg harness and ecu, acis on 2nd gen is being trigger by the ecu the same as to tvis?

[GTRJDM]

Well i decided not to do this project to my celica now but read my new thred to see what i am doing now !!

cheers

[ToyGTR]

By any chance you didnt happen to get a 2nd gen ECU/loom did you?