1st Gen 3SGE to 3SGTE Over Haul- BLOG.

[Joel87GT]

I went today to see the engine I got from Jeremy. I am really excited to be a 1st gen 3sge owner with TVIS. I will be getting a engine stand next week mounting it like just as TOM is doing with his 3sge.

The GE is a different beast from a 3sfe. I think it looks a bit bigger. Not only that I like the head design with the nice valve cover. Jeremy is going to help me build my GE to a 3sgte the right way. So the first step will be overhauling the internals. I am so excited.

[blck87gtconv]

The "bigger size" is do to the less-vertical valve angle and true DOHC (not just slave driven). I'd be excited as all hell too.

[White87GT]

heh, the problem with mine is the fact that it still looks like that 3 months later.

It looks like I'll probably go the 2nd gen route, or the GTE route.

Gotta get a job first though.

Good luck Joel.

[Joel87GT]

things that I have in mind when I tear the block next week. i was wonder does anyone know of a black lite inspection looking for internal / external cracks?

I know I will need alot of Engine Cleaner but, is there a liquid spray that uses a black lite for inspection? Kind of like a crime scene investigation looking for finger prints.

[buzzbomber87gts]

Joel87GT said:

things that I have in mind when I tear the block next week. i was wonder does anyone know of a black lite inspection looking for internal / external cracks?

I know I will need alot of Engine Cleaner but, is there a liquid spray that uses a black lite for inspection? Kind of like a crime scene investigation looking for finger prints.

take it to the machine shop and have them test it....pressure testing. just tell them you need them to test the block for cracks....costs like 15 bucks

[MIGHTY]

Hey wjere are the picks of the tear down and other processes in this swap??? And JERMEY WHEN CAN I DROP MY CAR OFF???

[Joel87GT]

ok some1 tell me where is the spark plugs? and why is the intake manifold over the head?



Way different than our first gen.

[phillk6751]

Joel87GT said:

ok some1 tell me where is the spark plugs? and why is the intake manifold over the head?

Way different than our first gen.

WTF!!! is that real? that looks weird. Way too confusing...and what is that box BEHIND the intake manifold? couldn't be the valve cover, or is it?

[White87GT]

That's the 2nd gen engine. The box thing behind the intake manifold is actually part of the manifold.

[Joel87GT]

I found a larin engine for 35 dollars. Thats twice the price here at my local autozone shops. It will be here in 3 to 5 days.



garage-toys.com/laenst.html


Next on my get list is the engine hoist.



garage-toys.com/la2tonhyshho.html


When I get the JE Pistons.. do they come with the piston rings? $499.99 for complete set JEs and, I hear the rings ranges another 300 for a 4 set pops. Ok, can anyone tell me where can I get titanium valve springs? eh?

[Joel87GT]

White87GT said:

That's the 2nd gen engine. The box thing behind the intake manifold is actually part of the manifold.

The owner says -its a 3rd gen? At first Ithought it was a mounted S/C. Weird looking isnt it? Look at the T/B.

[White87GT]

Then it is, don't take my word for it. The 2nd gen has an intake setup that is similar. I can't tell them apart, other than the obvious 'not a 1st gen'.

[phillk6751]

Joel87GT said:

The owner says -its a 3rd gen? At first Ithought it was a mounted S/C. Weird looking isnt it? Look at the T/B.

I noticed another thing....where is the distributer....or the ignitor....i guess that's prob why you can't find the spark plugs, but what's up with this thing...do they insert in the rear or something? or what? I'm gunna try to find some pics of this engine...and i'll post a link or something, that setup confuses me :-|

[Joel87GT]

phillk6751 said:

I noticed another thing....where is the distributer....or the ignitor....i guess that's prob why you can't find the spark plugs, but what's up with this thing...do they insert in the rear or something? or what? I'm gunna try to find some pics of this engine...and i'll post a link or something, that setup confuses me :-|

How do you change your oil with that 3rd gen ?

[phillk6751]

here's a few links to pics of that 3sge...White87gt is right, it's a 2nd gen...

cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4547596417&category=6755&sspagename=WDVW#ebayphotohosting

this one has a pic from the other side(inside an mr2)....
cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4549087143&category=15289

personally i don't like the way that's built.
#1) look at the removal of the spark plugs...just more crap in the way to remove them

#2) imagine what you'd have to do to replace the head gasket?!?!

#3) i'd also imagine the distributor is in a BAD spot that might make it hard to adjust the timing, the one on the 3sfe is in a bad enough spot(bolt close to a water temp sensor and easily breakable)